What Do You Do When a (Former) Friend Says, “I Want a Honda HR-V”?

2017 Honda HR-V blue - Image: HondaIt’s time for a new car, I told Mae last night.

She was explaining to a group of friends how she tore the passenger side mirror off and drove across the MacKay Bridge, on a specifically windy evening, with the mirror swinging about like an unchoreographed modern dancer.

The dangling power mirror, which an additional friend disconnected at Mae’s request, was only the newest concern. 1st, it’s a Saturn Ion Quad Coupe. Concern quantity two: the air-conditioning died lengthy ago, and Mae’s reluctant to invest a single penny redeeming this car. It is bitterly cold in eastern Canada now, but A/C is needful for one particular-third of the year and useful for the other nine months. Lastly, it’s a Saturn Ion Quad Coupe with a manual transmission.

“Ooh, aah, save the manuals,” you say. And I’m with you. Mae’s with you, as well. But I’ve spent adequate time — way too considerably time — in manual shift Ions to know that in an incredibly hilly city, the Ion’s shifter/clutch combo is worthy of dread. Not all manuals are worthy of saving.

Now the mirror’s off, and the conversations Mae and I have had more than a period of many months culminated in her succinct statement last evening: “I want a Honda HR-V.”

Insert awkward pause.

2004 Saturn Ion Quad coupe - Image: GM ArchivesThese are the moments an auto journalist fears. Mae’s a good friend. (Or at least she was, till I discovered she was pro-HR-V.) Last winter, brutally ill myself, I was filling in at a craft show for my sick and pregnant wife. Mae drove 40 minutes outdoors the city in a Saturn Ion Quad Coupe to fill in for me.

So I couldn’t lie. I couldn’t hide the truth that I when wrote a broadly-read piece for TTAC entitled, “The 2016 Honda HR-V Is Honda’s Worst Present Solution.”

I told GCBC readers the HR-V’s cabin is, “far from a soothing atmosphere.”

“The loud drone of the engine and dreadful tire noise would make me stay away from long highway journeys,” I wrote earlier this year.

I asked, as we do in all GCBC evaluations, regardless of whether you need to get something else as an alternative. The answer? “Yes, you should.”

The HR-V is uncomfortable, loud, slow, and overpriced. The LATCH system’s reduced anchors are among the worst-placed I’ve encountered.

So no, I couldn’t lie. But possessing lastly succeeded in receiving Mae to this juncture, after months of attempting to convince her that air-conditioning and heated seats are genuinely nice attributes, how could I push back against her vehicular tastes, particularly with three other close friends measuring the length of the awkward pause?

Fortunately, the case against the HR-V is especially effortless to make these days. With the fifth-generation Honda CR-V set to seem at dealers in the subsequent couple of days, remaining fourth-gen 2016 CR-Vs are handsomely discounted. Apart from the fact that the CR-V, North America’s top-selling utility car, is the superior vehicle to live with, the CR-V is also the far better long-term proposition simply because of better resale worth and since Honda dealers have better CR-V margins with which to operate in order to make a deal.2016 Honda CR-V - Image: HondaAccording to Honda.ca, Mae could lease an HR-V LX with all-wheel drive for $ 185 bi-weekly over four years, with 24,000 kilometers per year (15,000 miles) and no income down. Or she could get into an all-wheel-drive CR-V SE with the very same terms for $ 191 bi-weekly.

A $ six payment difference.

Add in the CR-V’s fuel economy penalty and the distinction maybe expands to $ 10.

For Mae, if she decides she’s ready to accept a payment as an alternative of driving the Ion till it requirements to be abandoned on the side of the Trans-Canada Highway in Shubenacadie, the answer is clear.

Quiet, far more spacious, with superior ride top quality, the CR-V is a no-brainer in this case. The CR-V SE is far better-equipped than the HR-V LX, too, adding fog lights, variable intermittent wipers, two extra speakers, and proximity access to the HR-V LX’s equipment list.

But this story is not a story unique to Canada, nor is it unique to Mae. In the U.S., a 2017 $ 27,440 Mazda CX-3 Grand Touring AWD can be bought for $ 216 bi-weekly, MazdaUSA.com says, but a $ 31,070 2016.5 Mazda CX-five Grand AWD is only $ 23 far more bi-weekly. Fuel economy penalty: $ six bi-weekly, according to the EPA. Positive aspects: superior power-to-weight ratio, far more than triple the cargo volume behind the rear seats, practically 20 percent much more passenger volume. The final results: Americans buy and lease six instances a lot more CX-5s than CX-3s. Of course you would.

America’s leading-selling subcompact crossover, the Jeep Renegade, is a $ 26,120 vehicle in Latitude 4×4 trim with the two.4-liter/9-speed combo. More than 60 months with no money down, Jeep presently says the bi-weekly payment is $ 201. Only $ 11 far more bi-weekly would get you a Cherokee 4×4 in Latitude trim.

Mae shouldn’t replace her Ion Quad Coupe with a Honda HR-V. This I know.

However it’s really most likely that a subcompact crossover, regardless of brand, is in no way the better deal than its compact equivalent.

Timothy Cain is the founder of GoodCarBadCar.net, which obsesses over the totally free and frequent publication of U.S. and Canadian auto sales figures. Adhere to on Twitter @goodcarbadcar and on Facebook.

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