2017 Audi Q7 Overview – The 3-Row Flagship

2017 Audi Q7 Front 3/4 Exterior, Image: © 2016 Alex Dykes/The Truth About Cars

2017 Audi Q7 three.T

3.-liter DOHC V6, supercharged (333 horsepower @ 5,500-6,500 rpm 325 pounds-feet @ two,900-five,300 rpm)

Eight-speed ZF automatic, Quattro AWD

19 city / 25 highway / 21 combined (EPA Rating, MPG)

19.5 (Observed, MPG)

Base Value: $ 55,750*

As Tested: $ 78,825*

* Prices contain $ 950 location charge.

We not too long ago reviewed the 2016 Volvo XC90, the long overdue redesign of Volvo’s family hauler. Very first introduced as a 2002 model, the XC90 was a teenager by the time it was finally replaced. Oddly enough, it is a similar story with the Audi Q7.

In response to Volvo’s then-new XC90, Audi began development of the seven-seater Q7 in 2002, which later hit the market place in 2005. It received a facelift in 2009, but the fundamentals of the slab-sided Audi remained. Eleven years later, and at about the same time as the new XC90, Audi has finally reinvented the Q7 as a sort of soft-road A8 Avant.

Can it compete against the new XC90 for the hearts and minds of luxury-minded households?

You’d be forgiven for considering this Q7 is but another refresh of the original model, as its resemblance — the result of Audi’s “brand unifying styling” — exhibits historical roots. Even complete redesigns have to stick to the “one sausage various lengths” style philosophy.

The Q7’s grille and headlamps are much more angular than prior to, providing the front end some needed masculinity, and the tail lamps achieve Audi’s new Y-shaped light pipes. The all round impact is a sharpening of the desirable lines located in the 2016 model without breaking any new ground.

It is not just sheetmetal that Audi replaces for the new Q7. The seven-seater is built upon Audi’s new MLB two platform, which was produced for the Bentley Bentayga and the majority of Audi’s future models. Although the huge Bentley is the largest expression of MLB, the Q7’s 199.7 inch length is notably longer than the BMW X5 and just 4 inches shorter than an Escalade.

2017 Audi Q7 Interior, Image: © 2016 Alex Dykes/The Truth About Cars

Although the outdoors is a variation on a theme, the interior goes all-in on the latest gadgetry — from an available full-LCD instrument cluster to a large touchpad for “finger writing” entry and far more active security gadgets than I care to name.

The general look is a tiny busy compared to the minimalist Volvo or even the X5. The dash is bisected by an huge bank of air vents styled right after the Audi 5000 that stretch from the gauge cluster all the way to the passenger door.

2017 Audi Q7 Interior Rear Seats, Image: © 2016 Alex Dykes/The Truth About Cars

Audi’s new front seats are much more comfortable than the base thrones in the BMW or Mercedes, although the up-level seat beats the competition’s premium alternatives by a hair. That mentioned, the new seat design in the XC90 trumps this comfort, no matter whether we’re talking base or optional seats.

Where the Q7 shines is in its second row. It is enormous. Sporting a 40/20/40-split style like we see in the Volvo, the seats offer a smidge much more space and my backside discovered them much more comfy. The trade-off is a third row that’s less comfortable than the XC90, even though it is a substantial improvement more than the cramped way-back in the X5.

Solidifying the Q7’s status as the luxury alternative to a minivan, you will discover 5 sets of latch anchors for child seats. In addition, the second row is wide enough to strap a Graco Classic Ride 50 seat in the middle and nonetheless flip/fold the outboard seats to hop in the rear. That is essential since moving the second row out-of-the-way is a more involved two-step process than the 1-step fold/slide mechanism we see in comparable Volvo, Acura, and Infiniti models.

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2017 requires MMI to a new level. Utilizing the exact same 12.3-inch LCD disco dash as the TT, the Q7 adds an eight-inch LCD front and center. Audi decided to limit some of the “virtual cockpit” characteristics observed in the TT, but the system functions similarly all round. The LCD cluster offers a wide-screen map view with Google satellite imagery and infotainment readouts, but method and automobile settings have to be adjusted with the show in the dash.

Perhaps the biggest adjust is the addition of Apple CarPlay and Android Auto support. With out a touchscreen, these interfaces work a small differently than in mass-market sedans. As a outcome, it actually feels significantly less polished than the implementation in the 2016 Accord.

Audiophiles will be content to hear that the base audio technique is a nicely balanced, ten-speaker setup with a regular CD player. Our tester had the mid-level, 19-speaker Bose branded technique, which adds speakers in locations you by no means believed you’d discover them. This isn’t the prime-finish method. That’d be the insane 23-speaker, 1,900-watt Bang &amp Olufsen method for a cool $ five,000 over the Bose program.

2017 Audi Q7 Engine 3.0L Supercharged V6, Image: © 2016 Alex Dykes/The Truth About Cars

Even though we have been told that a two.-liter turbo 4-cylinder engine will at some point be the base engine, the only engine at launch is a three.-liter supercharged V6. Cranking out 333 horsepower and 325 lbs-ft of torque, it tops the three.-liter turbo in the X5 and the turbocharged and supercharged four-banger in the Volvo. Mated to a standard ZF eight-speed automatic and Quattro all-wheel drive, the Q7 will tow up to 7,700 pounds when appropriately equipped.

2017 Audi Q7 Driving, Image: © 2016 Alex Dykes/The Truth About Cars

With 333 horses under the hood and a ZF transmission coordinating the energy delivery, you’d assume the Q7 would be sprightly, and you’d be appropriate. Our tester scooted to 60 miles per hour in six.1 seconds, simply besting the six-cylinder X5 and base GLE whilst tying with the lighter, nine-speed equipped MDX. What may surprise you is how close the 2016 Volvo XC90 came — just 3/10ths slower.

Audi’s Quattro integrates the center and front differentials into the transmission case, the side effect of this is that the complete engine and torque converter ride in front of the front axle. This placement signifies that the Q7 carries a higher percentage of its weight on the front wheels than primarily each rear-wheel-drive competitor and, interestingly adequate, the new XC90 as well. Nonetheless, don’t confuse front-heavy weight distribution with front-wheel-drive power bias. This AWD system sends the majority of the energy to the rear wheels unless needed. The XC90 can never send much more than 50 % of its power to the rear wheels unless a front wheel slips, and the new SH-AWD technique in the MDX is far less aggressive at sending energy to the rear than it was ahead of, which now defaults to a front-wheel-drive bias unless you’re genuinely pushing it hard.

2017 Audi Q7 Wheel, Image: © 2016 Alex Dykes/The Truth About Cars

When the new Q7 was launched, Audi trumpeted a significant 700 pound reduction in curb weight. Even so, by the time the Q7 made it to America, it gained about 275 pounds back, placing the 2017 model a cupcake away from five,000 pounds. That is a significant distance from the new XC90 at four,394 pounds, or the MDX at a comparatively slim 4,286. Even though the Q7 has a powerful rear energy bias and our model came equipped with optional rear-wheel steering and wide 285-width tires, the Q7 nevertheless felt large and heavy on winding mountain roads. Our model was equipped with the optional adaptive air suspension which, like all air suspensions, makes the Q7 really feel “boatier” than it otherwise would. In contrast, the front-wheel-biased Volvo feels nimble and greater balanced in neutral handling scenarios. On the flip side, the rear-wheel steering makes effortless perform of parking lot maneuvers that would be multi-point turns in the Volvo or Acura.

The EPA prices combined fuel economy at 21 mpg, which is primarily the very same as the XC90. Nonetheless, most likely thanks to the weight and the general drivetrain design, we averaged 19.five mpg — below what we saw in the Acura or Volvo.

At $ 55,650 to start (inclusive of a $ 950 location fee), the Audi is $ 100 a lot more than a base X5, but is far much better equipped. In addition to the normal third row, the Q7 also attributes common leather seats, all-wheel drive and three zone climate handle, making it nearly $ five,000 significantly less than a comparably equipped BMW. The delta among the Q7 and the new three-row Mercedes GLS is likely to be $ ten,000-$ 15,000. The Q7 is faster to 60 mph than the comparable Germans as well.

2017 Audi Q7 Rear 3/4 Exterior, Image: © 2016 Alex Dykes/The Truth About Cars

On the other side of the segment, the Acura MDX is a significant discount more than the Q7, but ZF’s nine-speed auto is far much less polished than the eight-speed in the Q7. The MDX also feels much less premium in common. Even though a comparable MDX is a $ 9,000 discount more than the Q7, the Audi is practically $ 9,000 nicer.

As anticipated, the toughest competitor for the Q7 is the new Volvo. The XC90 T6 AWD is $ four,000 much less than the Q7, is practically as rapidly, is a hair far more effective and has a far more comfortable 1st and third row. The XC90’s style also strikes me as refreshing in a sea of complex Germanic themes. Whilst the Q7’s drivetrain is far more my cup of tea than Volvo’s higher-strung four-pot, the Volvo’s much more nimble dynamic, much more polished active driving assistants and decrease price tag hold it in the top spot for me. Second place is not a undesirable finish for the Q7, but our tester pushed the $ 4,000 delta among the Audi and Volvo to $ ten,000 with out adjusting for the leather dashboard and door panels you locate in the Swede. With that kind of price tag distinction, the Q7 might be the discount German, but the Volvo is the all around greater folks hauler.

[Pictures: © 2016 Alex Dykes/The Truth About Automobiles]

Audi offered the vehicle, insurance and one particular tank of gas for this evaluation

Specifications as tested

-30: 2.three seconds

-60: six.1 seconds

1/4 mile: 14.3 seconds @ 97.7 mph

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2015 Ford Edge Titanium Overview – Manufacturer of Doubt

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2015 Ford Edge Titanium AWD

two-liter EcoBoost turbocharged I-four, direct injection (245 horsepower @ five,500 rpm 275 pounds-feet @ three,000 rpm, 93 octane)

Six-speed SelectShift automatic transmission

20 city/28 highway/23 combined (EPA Rating, MPG)

18.7 on the “Why Is My Fuel Economy So Freakin’ Horrible?” cycle (Observed, MPG)

Tested Choices: Equipment Group 302A – $ five,645 20-inch wheels – $ 995 other individuals – $ 600.

Base Price (SE FWD): $ 28,995 (U.S.)/$ 33,789 (Canada)

As Tested Price tag (Titanium AWD): $ 44,785 (U.S.)/$ 50,289 (Canada)

All costs consist of $ 895 destination fee (U.S.) or $ 1,690 destination charge, PDI and A/C tax (Canada).

As soon as I completed my time with the 2015 Nissan Murano, my thoughts immediately wandered to the new Ford Edge.

You see, the Murano is amazing. It is effortlessly comfortable. The ride is sublime. When you’re driving the Murano, everything is damn-near ideal. But the Murano could only be deemed pretty by someone subjected to the “Ludovico Technique” and thousands of flashing pictures of the Infiniti QX56 QX80.

The Murano is the violently green neon dress and pink knee-high boots to the Edge’s fitted black quantity and Saks Fifth Avenue pumps. At a black-tie affair, a single of these is going to stick out, and for all the incorrect motives.

Yet, appears can be deceiving. It was underneath that retina-burning attire I located an extremely comfortable, competent crossover in the Murano. It’s hard to fault it with your eyes closed.

Now it’s the Edge’s turn. Would I uncover the same characteristics in it that made me fall in adore with Nissan’s lifestyle-mobile?

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From a distance, the Edge won’t be confused for anything else.

Since the initial generation made its way to public roads, Ford’s middle child has tried its best to visually blend the lines between the Blue Oval’s cars and trucks. Up front, the Edge has constantly worn a version of the trademark Gillette barred grille, linking it closer to Ford’s trucks, but its headlights have slowly metamorphosed from an F-150-esque shape to that of the Taurus and Fusion.

Just like the 1st Edge, the design and style blending continues in the second generation — and to excellent impact. The 2015 Edge gets a new version of the barred grille — continuing its visual link to the F-Series trucks and larger Flex — nestled in a hexagonal surround seemingly pulled straight from the Taurus. Also up front on our Titanium-trimmed tester are a pair of pentagonal LED “signature” fog lamps in faux brake duct housings, regular on SEL and up models, and LED daytime operating lights in the headlight housings. HID headlights are optional, even this higher up the trim range, and came fitted on our tester as component of a $ five,645 equipment group.

In silhouette, the Edge continues to feature aggressively raked front and rear glass, providing it a shape as opposed to anything else in the segment. Our tester came with fashionable chrome trim surrounding its side glass and matching optional 20-inch polished aluminum wheels (Titanium models typically come with 19-inch “luster nickel-painted” aluminum footwear). These massive, round pieces of metal didn’t handicap its ride top quality as a lot as I thought they would — but much more on that later.

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The rear is vertically split by a LED light bar connecting the tail lights on Titanium and Sport models and the license plate is mounted higher up the tailgate. Additional down, regular twin exhaust ideas poke out via a faux diffuser.

All round, the Edge scores higher in the yuppie dink polls thanks to its styling, though it’s certainly not as offensive bold as the Murano. The Edge also appears pricey — due to the fact it is. As tested, our Titanium tester ideas the economic scales at $ 44,785 — $ five,360 a lot more than the Murano I tested earlier this year.

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Compared to the Murano, the Edge is a lot more luxurious to appear at on the inside, but to the detriment of comfort.

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For starters, while the seats in the Ford are much a lot more pleasing to the eye, they can not hold candle to the comfort presented by the Zero Gravity seats in the Murano. Nissan has a sturdy seat game, though, so I won’t fault Ford for not maintaining up with the requirements of my backside. Also, the cockpit in the Edge feels ever-so slightly far more snug in a visual way — and I liked it. I felt much more a component of the automobile.

The components on the dash are decidedly more upscale. Alternatively of uber-fake grains, Ford gives you basic satin-completed plastics that are significantly less likely to scratch than their brightly polished counterparts (although, there are a handful of of those as properly about the cup holders).

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And that beautiful burnt-orange/brown leather is everywhere. As far as interior colors are concerned, this nails it — though, I personally wouldn’t have it in a vehicle painted black.

For 2015, Ford gave the Edge added motivation options in a new twin-scroll 2-liter EcoBoost 4 cylinder and a 2.7-liter EcoBoost V-six in the Edge Sport. Our tester came with the former, creating 245 horsepower and 275 pounds-feet of torque — but only when you fill the tank with premium dino juice. If you opt to run normal pump gas, the engine won’t thoughts, but it will not generate the numbers quoted either. If you want to insure your self from the complexities of turbocharged engines, Ford nevertheless provides the usually aspirated three.five-liter V-6 as an choice.

Back to that two-liter EcoBoost engine in our Titanium model: the encounter is a mixed bag.

On one particular hand, it is actually hard to fault the new mill from a drivability viewpoint. When mated with Ford’s SelectShift six-speed automatic and all-wheel drive, the small 4 pot is as smooth as any turbocharged mill can be. The Mercedes-Benz two-liter turbo employed in the CLA and GLA are downright agricultural in comparison, and the Ford mill is practically on par with V-6 smoothness thanks to what I’m confident is several cubic feet of sound deadening material.

But, there’s a cost related with that smoothness: fuel economy.

Most of my time with the Edge was spent in city driving, but even then, I must have achieved greater than the 18.7 mpg reported by the on-board trip laptop. For comparison, the Murano with its V-6 engine and CVT transmission delivered 22.4 mpg in slightly much less city-centric driving.

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The 2015 Edge itself might be all new, but its infotainment is not.

SYNC in the 2015 Ford Edge is not SYNC3. We are still in the MyFord Touch era here. That said, I nevertheless do not realize the derision hoisted upon “SYNC with MyFord Touch”, as it’s marketed, by people who shall remain nameless. Yes, it requires some acquiring employed to and it may possibly even be a tiny slow at times, but have you attempted the infotainment systems from the Japanese brands — Honda, Subaru, Toyota, et al? I’d rather be stuck with this version of SYNC for the rest of my life if it meant in no way having to use Starlink ever again. And don’t even get me started on Honda’s apparent inability to manufacture a volume knob.

Nevertheless, even this version of SYNC is not long for this planet in the Edge. The 2016 model brings the newer version to dashboards. So, rather of asking me what I consider, go to a Ford dealer and attempt them both. Probabilities are dealers will have each 2015 and 2016 model year Edges on hand.

As for the 12-speaker Sony audio method, it sounds good when being fed higher-high quality tunes as far as I could tell, but I’m no audiophile.

Perceived top quality, and not the J.D. Power kind

So, bear in mind that post from awhile back? You know, that a single.

Properly, as several of you guessed correctly, these photos were taken of this specific Edge. Right here are all of them.

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So, there are two possibilities here: 1. Either this is a pre-production model in a media fleet (which a number of sources have told me must by no means come about) or, two. This is a production car (which it ought to be given that we are acquiring this car at the end of the 2015 model year run) with a couple of troubles.

Also, I want to make it quite clear to you — TTAC’s B&ampB, our more casual readers, and these at Ford who’ll be re-evaluating my future press fleet access — that I’m not doubting the high quality of the Edge. Panel fitment is one particular of those items that can take a lot of time to get appropriate, and a 1st year run of a new model is going to have some teething concerns.

What I do want to highlight is perceived good quality on what’s a close to-as-makes-no-distinction $ 50,000 prime-trim crossover.

If an individual is going to drop a considerable quantity of their income on a new car — which can be the second- or first-most high-priced obtain of their lifetime — they expect a particular level of quality, perceived or otherwise. I have no doubt the Edge is a top quality item in the “mechanically sound and reliable” sense of the word, but I’m not certain the general public would be so forgiving.

And they haven’t been. Because I began at TTAC, I’ve received more emails about Ford panel fitment — largely on Mustangs — than any other typical thread. It may be time for Ford to renew their focus on perceived create high quality, if for no other reason but to have its vehicles show better on a dealer’s lot.

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The Ford Edge, when ignoring the dismal fuel economy, drives far better than you’d anticipate with its big-diameter wheels and skinny tires for shoes.

When I expected Ford’s crossover to be crashy, it smoothed out the bumps. When I anticipated it to rock to and fro on undulating pavement, it stayed fairly flat. And when I expected the engine to crank and groan as a lot of overstressed turbocharged four-cylinder engines do, Ford showed me that an automaker can construct a tiny-displacement turbo that does not act like a frenetic baboon.

Ford’s crossover did demand a little a lot more work than appreciated to turn the tiller. The steering wheel, for whatever cause, presented up much more resistance than located on the significantly larger, considerably a lot more truck-y Cadillac Escalade I lately drove. For a car targeted at moms as much as it is dads, I consider it could be a little lighter.

In a nutshell, although, I can place my conclusion of the Edge in 3 sentences:

The Edge is 9/10ths as very good as the Murano.

But I’d still purchase the Edge.

And I’d advise both — although I’d tell folks to get the 3.5-liter V-6 Edge alternatively simply based on fuel economy.

Getting a vehicle is as much an emotional decision as it is a practical 1. Even though the Murano is practically every little thing I’d want a crossover to be, it does not have the a single quality I genuinely crave: very good looks.

And it’s with that I’d hitch my arm to the girl at the black-tie affair wearing the black dress — because it’s simple to stick out when you don’t belong, but a lot harder to do when you fit in.

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